. >> chris van hollen, a member of the supercommittee on deficit reduction. he knows a lot. good to see you in person. >> it's great to be here. >> we're all running on fumes and now, we have to get on those fumes and solve this problem because the market is right. it is a crisis and it has to be dealt with. what i don't understand is, a little change in the senate, but -- why is it going to happen now. >> first of all, a lot of the republicans in congress have been focused primarily, maybe we can move beyond that objective. the second is the structure of the situation. the cliff creates big risks, also, opportunities. because not resolving the fiscal cliff will create problems for the country. we need to focus on two things. we need to accelerate the recovery and we need to act now to come up with a balanced, long-term plan to reduce the deficit. >> obviously, those are the, how we do that is the big question. now, john boehner had something to say today about revenue. by revenue, everybody, we're talking about, well, that's the whole point. there's different things we coul